mrblah
Jul 25, 12:24 AM
What third world country are you living in, where 50% of computer users could never afford a Mac?
Havent looked at PC prices in awhile? Most PC's these days are less than $1000 and come with a monitor. The cheapest iMac is $1300 and doesnt have the same "desirability" that a tower has to people looking for the best bang for their buck (even though they are technically the same). Mini's are $600 and dont come with a monitor, keyboard, or mouse, they mainly appeal to old PC owners wanting to try a mac. PC's are very cheap these days, just take a stroll through dell's site to see what people can get for less than $800 and what Apple will need to do if they expect to compete.
Havent looked at PC prices in awhile? Most PC's these days are less than $1000 and come with a monitor. The cheapest iMac is $1300 and doesnt have the same "desirability" that a tower has to people looking for the best bang for their buck (even though they are technically the same). Mini's are $600 and dont come with a monitor, keyboard, or mouse, they mainly appeal to old PC owners wanting to try a mac. PC's are very cheap these days, just take a stroll through dell's site to see what people can get for less than $800 and what Apple will need to do if they expect to compete.
DaveGee
Apr 12, 08:53 PM
Could someone clarify this for me: Aren't hard drives too slow to make use of Thunderbolt anyway? In a typical USB 2.0 external hard drive, what is the bottleneck in speed: The speed at which the hard drive spins, or the USB 2.0 connection? If it's the USB, then why do people even care about the RPM of a drive? If it's the RPM, then isn't USB 2.0 fast enough to run a hard drive at its native speed?
Let's look at it a different way...
Almost every residential building in NYC has 1/4" to 1/2" (diameter) copper water pipes for their city water service... Even skyscrapers are mostly fitted with similar sized pipes for 99% of it's living spaces.. So, why is NYC paying billions of dollars to have a 24 feet diameter water pipe constructed to bring water down from the reservoirs or why build a 12+ lane super-highway when a car is only one lane in width?
B_A_N_D_W_I_D_T_H B_A_B_Y!!
Usage of TB technology is not restricted to a single user (device) at a time... TB is very much like a the PCI bus found in modern PC's, cept it's all done on a much smaller interconnect... It's really very sweet you can literally have 3 or 4 monitors running off of it as well as accessing a very high speed NAS and reading from a bluray drive (not playing from it ... but thats not the fault of TB)... It can literally have EVERYTHING and ANYTHING plugged into it.... Well put it this way... if something can be engineered to operate in a PCI slot... It'll work just fine as a TB device.
Let's look at it a different way...
Almost every residential building in NYC has 1/4" to 1/2" (diameter) copper water pipes for their city water service... Even skyscrapers are mostly fitted with similar sized pipes for 99% of it's living spaces.. So, why is NYC paying billions of dollars to have a 24 feet diameter water pipe constructed to bring water down from the reservoirs or why build a 12+ lane super-highway when a car is only one lane in width?
B_A_N_D_W_I_D_T_H B_A_B_Y!!
Usage of TB technology is not restricted to a single user (device) at a time... TB is very much like a the PCI bus found in modern PC's, cept it's all done on a much smaller interconnect... It's really very sweet you can literally have 3 or 4 monitors running off of it as well as accessing a very high speed NAS and reading from a bluray drive (not playing from it ... but thats not the fault of TB)... It can literally have EVERYTHING and ANYTHING plugged into it.... Well put it this way... if something can be engineered to operate in a PCI slot... It'll work just fine as a TB device.
NoExpectations
Apr 14, 07:33 AM
Apple II
Don't panic
Apr 28, 12:56 PM
The best I can do on short notice...
that's pretty good.
let's hope in a short night (but not too short, as in abruptly ended ;))
the tricky part will be to find the infected (which probably is not infected yet)
that's pretty good.
let's hope in a short night (but not too short, as in abruptly ended ;))
the tricky part will be to find the infected (which probably is not infected yet)
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LethalWolfe
Apr 12, 08:33 PM
Thanks, just saw it.
Kind of surprised it's such a late thing... doesn't Apple tend to do events at 10 AM, not 10 PM? (I guess it's still only 7 PM on their coast... still, isn't it time to go home by now for their employees?)
It's not an Apple event, it's a user group event.
Lethal
Kind of surprised it's such a late thing... doesn't Apple tend to do events at 10 AM, not 10 PM? (I guess it's still only 7 PM on their coast... still, isn't it time to go home by now for their employees?)
It's not an Apple event, it's a user group event.
Lethal
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Plutonius
Apr 26, 03:00 PM
Hmmm ...
I can honestly say that I have never been a WW in all the games I have played so far (including this one).
What I have been is an active player with very good anti-WW analysis skills (which is what the WW hate :D ). It's your choice if you want my help or not.
I can honestly say that I have never been a WW in all the games I have played so far (including this one).
What I have been is an active player with very good anti-WW analysis skills (which is what the WW hate :D ). It's your choice if you want my help or not.
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peapody
Jan 26, 10:45 AM
Really? I took the cue from the post count and not page count. I was under the impression that graphic-heavy threads are closed after about 2000 posts.
Haha, I don't care, but it would have been nice to keep it going since I did the last 2 and put some work in tracking down old threads and adding up posts etc etc. Whatever.
Got myself the biggest m*&*#&(*$& snow broom I can find, since it snows like every other day this year
Lol that is what I need! I'm too short for my SUV!
Hmm.. last purchase..
mrs. Fields white chocolate macadamia nibblers. Delish!
*not my pic*
Haha, I don't care, but it would have been nice to keep it going since I did the last 2 and put some work in tracking down old threads and adding up posts etc etc. Whatever.
Got myself the biggest m*&*#&(*$& snow broom I can find, since it snows like every other day this year
Lol that is what I need! I'm too short for my SUV!
Hmm.. last purchase..
mrs. Fields white chocolate macadamia nibblers. Delish!
*not my pic*
twoodcc
Nov 4, 05:14 PM
Welcome!
Please run the bigadv units, you will get much better PPD. It looks like you are running the regular SMP client for now.
Use -smp 8 if the are 2008 or earlier, -smp 16 if they are 2009 otco...
will -smp 8 be fast enough?
Please run the bigadv units, you will get much better PPD. It looks like you are running the regular SMP client for now.
Use -smp 8 if the are 2008 or earlier, -smp 16 if they are 2009 otco...
will -smp 8 be fast enough?
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rman726
Apr 29, 11:23 PM
Remember when tiered pricing was announced, Steve said more songs would be available for $.69 than $1.29...I have yet to see a $.69 song.
Agreed. I heard Summer of 69 on the radio earlier today in the car, and the song has been stuck in my head all day. So I decided that would be a good song to test, as you would think a song from the 80's would be a song that would at highest price be $0.99. Low and behold, it is $1.29 on iTunes.
So apparently not only popular new songs, but "popular" old songs are even $1.29. I bought a couple of "Best Of" albums from Amazon today that were $5. You can't beat getting 12-15 of the top hits from artists for $5. Just 4 of those songs would cost you $5 on iTunes if they were $1.29, which most songs seem to be.
Agreed. I heard Summer of 69 on the radio earlier today in the car, and the song has been stuck in my head all day. So I decided that would be a good song to test, as you would think a song from the 80's would be a song that would at highest price be $0.99. Low and behold, it is $1.29 on iTunes.
So apparently not only popular new songs, but "popular" old songs are even $1.29. I bought a couple of "Best Of" albums from Amazon today that were $5. You can't beat getting 12-15 of the top hits from artists for $5. Just 4 of those songs would cost you $5 on iTunes if they were $1.29, which most songs seem to be.
alent1234
Oct 1, 03:41 PM
i have a family plan with a 3G, 3GS and 2 cheapo phones. my wife and her parents came from Verizon. we live in NYC and no one ever complains about dropped calls. i've had a few from inside a converted factory building with very thick walls
the most dropped calls i have are to my mom in colorado who has t-mobile. those drop on a land line all the time as well
the most dropped calls i have are to my mom in colorado who has t-mobile. those drop on a land line all the time as well
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Middiebear
May 4, 04:01 AM
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Can the front page print a retraction?...
AT&T CSRs don't receive any official information about ANY phone releases prior to general public... Let alone an iPhone release.
We weren't informed about the iPhone 4 being released until AFTER Apple's official press conference last year.
Even though I know this is a site for rumors... I've found this site to make sure the BS rumors were weeded out before it would become front-page news... But making an unsubstantiated statement by a random AT&T CSR front-page material is just plain bad journalism.
BTW: AT&T has been cracking down on customer's upgrade eligibility dates. If you downgrade/remove features/plans on your account odds are the date will be changed.
AT&T makes no promises that the date is constant and it can really change at any time...
The customer related to the article probably was suspended too many times for non-pay and that's the reason why the date was changed... Not because of some crazy conspiracy to correlate with the next iPhone release...
Can the front page print a retraction?...
AT&T CSRs don't receive any official information about ANY phone releases prior to general public... Let alone an iPhone release.
We weren't informed about the iPhone 4 being released until AFTER Apple's official press conference last year.
Even though I know this is a site for rumors... I've found this site to make sure the BS rumors were weeded out before it would become front-page news... But making an unsubstantiated statement by a random AT&T CSR front-page material is just plain bad journalism.
BTW: AT&T has been cracking down on customer's upgrade eligibility dates. If you downgrade/remove features/plans on your account odds are the date will be changed.
AT&T makes no promises that the date is constant and it can really change at any time...
The customer related to the article probably was suspended too many times for non-pay and that's the reason why the date was changed... Not because of some crazy conspiracy to correlate with the next iPhone release...
rdowns
Jan 30, 12:36 PM
Jon Cryer has to be the most unhappy guy in the world right now.
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Jason Beck
Apr 10, 02:30 AM
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5146/5602392616_299b977b87_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dailymatador/5602392616/)
Camera Canon EOS REBEL T2i
Exposure 0.005 sec (1/200)
Aperture f/9.0
Focal Length 35 mm
ISO Speed 100
This photo made me thirsty for some Sprite. That is a cool tree right there. Liking the colors on it alot. Could care less about the fountain. : )
Camera Canon EOS REBEL T2i
Exposure 0.005 sec (1/200)
Aperture f/9.0
Focal Length 35 mm
ISO Speed 100
This photo made me thirsty for some Sprite. That is a cool tree right there. Liking the colors on it alot. Could care less about the fountain. : )
zombierunner
May 3, 08:39 AM
3.4GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7
4GB 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x2GB
1TB Serial ATA Drive
AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2GB GDDR5
Apple Magic Mouse
Apple Wireless Keyboard (British) & User's Guide (English)
Microsoft Office Mac 2011 - Home and Student Edition
AppleCare Protection Plan for iMac/eMac
Apple Remote
HP Photosmart Wireless e-All-in-One Printer
Will Update RAM to 12GB by buying 8GB RAM from Crucial
SORTED!
CAN'T BELIEVE 2GB GRAPHICS ..SWEET
Question - Do I get the same ram from crucial as for the 2010 model? crucial doesn't show 2011 imac option yet. wait?
4GB 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x2GB
1TB Serial ATA Drive
AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2GB GDDR5
Apple Magic Mouse
Apple Wireless Keyboard (British) & User's Guide (English)
Microsoft Office Mac 2011 - Home and Student Edition
AppleCare Protection Plan for iMac/eMac
Apple Remote
HP Photosmart Wireless e-All-in-One Printer
Will Update RAM to 12GB by buying 8GB RAM from Crucial
SORTED!
CAN'T BELIEVE 2GB GRAPHICS ..SWEET
Question - Do I get the same ram from crucial as for the 2010 model? crucial doesn't show 2011 imac option yet. wait?
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IJ Reilly
Oct 18, 06:21 PM
I think this is different. Our company is not buying any Intel-based macs until Adobe releases Universal CS, and I don't know why anyone would spend $$ on new hardwre now only to take a performance hit, vs. a performance increase and better hardware bang for the buck by waiting 6-9 months.
Because not everyone uses Adobe CS, and because you're always going to get better bang for your buck by waiting?
Because not everyone uses Adobe CS, and because you're always going to get better bang for your buck by waiting?
MacFan782040
Oct 18, 04:31 PM
NICEEEE! I can't wait to see what they have in store for 2007 :D
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vincenz
Apr 23, 07:57 PM
I'd be surprised if this comes true. T-Mobile's network is not exactly up to par with AT&T and Verizon.
Stetrain
Apr 17, 01:58 AM
Hmmm, lots of people seem to assume that "Universal iOS+Mac Apps" means running an iPhone app in a window/emulator on your Mac.
That's not what I meant at all.
Look at Universal iPhone/iPad apps. Same app by the same developer but it presents a different interface for different devices. It also means that buying the app once lets you use it on multiple types of device. Why not let developers do the same thing with Mac apps? Many probably wouldn't want to but it wouldn't hurt to have the option.
Buy X-Twitter-App for $4.99 and you get it on iPhone, iPad, and your Mac!
You aren't running an app with an iOS interface on your Mac, you're running an app with an interface built for running on a Mac.
That's not what I meant at all.
Look at Universal iPhone/iPad apps. Same app by the same developer but it presents a different interface for different devices. It also means that buying the app once lets you use it on multiple types of device. Why not let developers do the same thing with Mac apps? Many probably wouldn't want to but it wouldn't hurt to have the option.
Buy X-Twitter-App for $4.99 and you get it on iPhone, iPad, and your Mac!
You aren't running an app with an iOS interface on your Mac, you're running an app with an interface built for running on a Mac.
DeathChill
Apr 23, 12:21 PM
I don't think that enjoying the products is a bad thing at all. I think I provide a good analogy. I never head a non investing bragging about how much money the electric company makes or how happy they were that their health insurance company had a record year. I just find it strange.
Those are companies people don't get attached to. Apple and other tech companies are a much more personal choice, generally. It probably also helps because those people are excited that Apple is making more money, allowing them to deliver more new and innovative products then would be possible with lower cash flow.
EDIT: Also, it's not a good analogy. You are comparing two completely different types of companies and asking why people don't care about them on the same level.
Think of it this way: why do people care so much about their favorite hockey team winning? Can't they just be happy that they're playing? Of course not, the goal is to win.
Those are companies people don't get attached to. Apple and other tech companies are a much more personal choice, generally. It probably also helps because those people are excited that Apple is making more money, allowing them to deliver more new and innovative products then would be possible with lower cash flow.
EDIT: Also, it's not a good analogy. You are comparing two completely different types of companies and asking why people don't care about them on the same level.
Think of it this way: why do people care so much about their favorite hockey team winning? Can't they just be happy that they're playing? Of course not, the goal is to win.
dongmin
Jul 26, 11:05 AM
but who would want to have a full featured iTunes when you still haven't solved the problem of typing. The most efficient part for me is to type out what you're looking for. I do, however, see the advantage to making playlists more efficiently on the go, giving you the ability to shuffle anything you choose, not just "All Songs" which is a bother. :)Text input can be addressed in a lot of different ways. Bluetooth portable keyboards, for example. If I got a tablet, I'd also get myself a foldable keyboard to take along with me. Or you can make do with a virtual keyboard activated by gestures (2nd image):
http://images.appleinsider.com/patent-ipod-touch17i.gif
http://images.appleinsider.com/patent-ipod-touch17i.gif
Btrthnezr3
Jan 29, 10:52 PM
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Gorgeous bike! Be careful!
Gorgeous bike! Be careful!
Mystikal
Mar 15, 08:55 AM
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Fashion Island - around 7 people in line or so?
Fashion Island - around 7 people in line or so?
djkny
Oct 24, 07:56 AM
And they delayed this update by 6-8 weeks for ... ?
Would/Should we have waited if we knew then what we know now and will know in the future ?
:(
Would/Should we have waited if we knew then what we know now and will know in the future ?
:(
Snowy_River
Jul 12, 01:07 AM
At $79 a year it will probably be 5 years before the program moves to a commonly useful level where it may have the ability to replace MS Office. The very casual Word Processor user will not have to wait very long, maybe Pages 3 or Pages 4. With the 5 X $79 = $395 we move into the price range of the non-educational price of MS Office. But for the heavy Office user, 5 years may not be long enough...
Hmm... Let's start with the idea of present value. $79 spent a year from now isn't worth $79 today. So, $79 a year for the next five years is actually only worth $300-$361 (assuming a possible APR of between 3% and 10%). Now, that's compared with $399.95 for Office. Hmm. But there's another factor here. If a given upgrade doesn't have any features that are compelling to you, you don't have to get it. Wow! That would mean that iWork would be even less!
Now, all of that being said, of course if iWork isn't functional for you now you shouldn't get it. But if it is, as this thread has shown that there are a lot of us out here for whom it, in fact, is, then there's no reason for us not to get it. So, all around, I'd argue that iWork is a cost savings over MS Office, even if you upgrade every time.
Plus, if all you need to make it a worthwhile office suite is a spreadsheet, then there are a variety of options at various price points. These include OpenOffice Calc, KOffice KSpread (both free), Mariner Calc, etc.
Hmm... Let's start with the idea of present value. $79 spent a year from now isn't worth $79 today. So, $79 a year for the next five years is actually only worth $300-$361 (assuming a possible APR of between 3% and 10%). Now, that's compared with $399.95 for Office. Hmm. But there's another factor here. If a given upgrade doesn't have any features that are compelling to you, you don't have to get it. Wow! That would mean that iWork would be even less!
Now, all of that being said, of course if iWork isn't functional for you now you shouldn't get it. But if it is, as this thread has shown that there are a lot of us out here for whom it, in fact, is, then there's no reason for us not to get it. So, all around, I'd argue that iWork is a cost savings over MS Office, even if you upgrade every time.
Plus, if all you need to make it a worthwhile office suite is a spreadsheet, then there are a variety of options at various price points. These include OpenOffice Calc, KOffice KSpread (both free), Mariner Calc, etc.
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